CHARACTERISTICS of polymer clay BRANDS & TYPES
for
a condensed list of many
ways that polymer clay
can be used,
see this page:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/info_letter.htm
OTHER PAGES at this site with info about clays
...for sculpting with polymer clays-- flesh or other colors ...see Sculpting-Gen > Clays for Sculpting
...for
all info on translucent
clays (and glow-in-the-dark clays) of all brands... see Translucents
...for
all info on mica-containing
"metallic" clays (Gold, Copper,
Silver, whitish Pearl,
Red Pearl, Blue Pearl) ...see Mica
...for
all info on liquid
polymer
clays... see Liquid
Clay
SUMMARY of some important points
The main brands of polymer clay you're likely to run across in stores and online in the U.S. are:
...the Sculpeys --manufactured by
Polyform
......white or terracotta original Sculpey (called Polyform
in art stores?) (in boxes)
......flesh-colored SuperSculpey (in boxes)...gray
SuperSculpey Firm
......colored Sculpey III (in 2 oz bars)
......soft-colored
Studio by Sculpey (2.8 oz bars)
..... white, marshmallowy Ultralight
...the
Fimos (FimoClassic and FimoSoft ...different clay lines)
--manufactured by Eberhard Faber
...Premo --also manufactured by the
Polyform (..aka "Premo! Sculpey", but only by manufacturers or in print!)
...Kato
Polyclay (newest polymer clay) --manufactured by Van Aken, though VA also makes
a non-polymer clay
...sometimes Cernit?
...Promat
and Friendly
Clay are no longer manufactured
A few other brands are
available outside the U.S.
There really isn't
one "best" brand of polymer clay.
...All
brands can make most anything in the polymer clay repertoire ...but, the
different brands & types definitely have different characteristics, diff.
costs, and diff. suitabilities for certain applications, handling, detail, or
weather conditions, etc.
...the Sculpeys and new version
of FimoSoft are weaker after baking than the others (bulk white
or terracotta Sculpey is the weakest ...SuperSculpey and the small bars of Sculpey
III are stronger, but still weaker than other brands)
.......all the Sculpeys
and new FimoSoft will be brittle after baking in any areas which
are thin or extending, and can snap
off or chip if they are stressed
.......(however, if you simply want to make
something round like a bead, or apply cane slices to something, or make something
small with no thin areas, those clays probably wouldn't be a problem because those
shapes/sizes/etc. are inherently strong).
....have the "hardest"
surface after baking (which can be good for armatures, e.g)
....caning
...although most clayers don't use Sculpey III or new FimoSoft, it's not impossible
to use, especially if you don't mind a bit of distortion in the pattern
(i.e., spirals are fine, faces usually aren't)
...FimoSoft has changed
its formula in the U.S. in 2006 (which had happened a year or
so before overseas) to something similar to Sculpey
III
... FimoSoft has an even newer version in 2007 (see below)
...FimoClassic
is a great clay especially for caning ...but its major disadvantage is it takes
more time and effort to condition
(no
longer true since the 2007 reformulation... now soft)
...if you tend to have hot hands, or live in a hot climate without ac, or tend to work-and-work your clay, certain brands may become too soft as you work with them unless they're cooled periodically (Sculpey, Premo, Cernit)...if one of those things applies to you, you'd probably be happiest with Kato or FimoClassic
...the natural surface of Kato bakes up with a slight sheen, and Sculpey's is very matte... the others are in-between (though each can be made to have more sheen or matte-ness)
...Cernit has translucent clay in every one of its colors --if you want to make Cernit colors opaque, add bit of white (which is opaque) from another brand, or their "Opaque White"
..colors... each brand has
it's own color palette
.... so each brand may have the same general
colors (e.g., red, blue, or white), but each brand's version of that color
may be different
.....Kato, Premo, Sculpey III have the
"truest" colors, whereas the Fimos are often toned down...
Studio by Sculpey's colors are soft and no real darks ...Kato
has the fewest "extra" colors
...Kato and Premo have the best mica-containing metallic clays for their amount of shine, but FimoSoft has recently made some too
more
Each brand may have special "colors" too
....for example, most all brands have a translucent clay, many have metallics
which contain mica, some have a glow-in-the-dark and glitter clays (and flesh-colored
clays in boxes) ...Polyform puts out some "stone-look" clays and a few
clays which remain flexible after baking (Bend and Bake, MoldMaker, Eraser Clay,
etc.).
(for most all info on clear translucent
clays (and glow-in-the-dark clays) of all brands... see Translucents
(for
most all info on mica-containing
clays (Gold, Copper, Silver, whitish
Pearl, Red Pearl, Blue Pearl) ...see Mica)
All
brands, and types of polymer clay can be combined to make
new combinations of flexibility, strength, or to "extend" the amount
of clay when needed, etc.
........Deborah's info on mixing clays
together http://www.pcpolyzine.com/january2002/beginners.html
...all
colors of clay can be combined to make many new colors,
or entire palettes of color (see Color
for details)
There are also clear "liquid
clays" which can be used as glue, or in many other ways
... the only one
generally available at retail is Translucent Liquid Sculpey (TLS), but
online Kato and Fimo have somewhat-clearer versions --Kato Clear Polyclay
Medium and Fimo (Liquid) Decorating Gel-- and there are colored versions
online too.
(Be aware that other clays which may look like polymer clays are actually *air-dry* clays --those don't require heat to cure ...e.g., Makin's, Hearty, Das, "cold porcelain" clays, Creative Paperclay, Celluclay, epoxy putties, etc... each has its own characteristics)
see below for much more detail about the characteristics of each brand and type of polymer clay
for sculpting with polymer clay, however, desirable characterstics can be different and are discussed in Sculpting-Gen > Clays for Sculpting
purchasing clays:
----local retail
stores (craft stores like Michaels & Hobby Lobby...also
some larger hobby stores, art supply stores, or kids
educational toy stores)
...may stock one or more of the brands and/or
colors, but usually have an incomplete
selection ... and don't usually carry
the larger bricks
...some
stores charge more for one brand than another... sometimes have good
sales
...be sure and squeeze the clay because it could have gotten too
hard from excess heat or ultraviolet light during storage or shelf life
...because Polyform and Eberhard Faber now each manufacture two lines
of clay, don't confuse FimoClassic with FimoSoft...
or Sculpey III with "Premo!Sculpey" (which clayers
refer to only as "Premo")
----mail
order ...(online or by telephone):
... usually have most of the colors within a brand.... they
often carry several brands ... and the clay is fresh
....clay bought mail order is almost always cheaper than that bought retail
at the reg. price ... (but be sure and but do check
out the weights of the clays bars offered--see below)
(...
larger "bricks" of clay are not generally
available in local stores)
....... see Supply Sources
for specific mail order contact info & for non-US.
suppliers
"but
the lesson says
to use a specific
brand of
clay!". . . .Debbie
...Well, one thing to keep in (one's
necessarily cynical) mind is that the brand of clay "recommended"
in a project will most often have to do with the interests of the manufacturer
or person suggesting it.
In this case you were at the Polyform website when
you saw the project, so of course Polyform wants to see one of their products
(Sculpey or Premo) recommended (this is akin to Heinz putting out a recipe for
meatloaf in which Heinz Ketchup is an ingredient ...most people
realize that it doesn't have to be Heinz brand which is used, although as with
clays it *may sometimes* make some difference... see above.)
...also,
sometimes the person recommending a specific clay can be in some way working
for the manufacturer...e.g. Donna Kato was a representative for Polyform
long ago, and then for FimoSoft's manufacturer. It's not surprising then that
when she demonstrated a project or wrote about one, she said to use Sculpey clay
(and later FimoSoft). Now she has her own clay, and recommends it for her projects.
baking
polymer clays:
Each brand of polymer clay
has a baking temperature that's recommended by the manufacturer
...(these
temps are different because the exact composition of each varies)
Each brand
(and sometimes type) also has a recommended time at which that temperature
must be held for the clay to cure thoroughly (and be as reasonably-strong as that
brand is capable of being)
But baking time and temperature are interdependent
and a trade-off:
...so for
thermosetting plastics such as polymer clay, the "best" temperature is
just one at which it polymerizes at a reasonable rate
......the
hotter the temperature, the quicker the setting reaction
will happen
....... but, the reaction will still happen even
at somewhat-lower temperatures --it just takes longer to finish
....(the
DH says there's a rule for that ratio:."for
every 10 degree C (18 F) loss in temperature, a reaction will proceed half
as fast -- or in reverse, for every 10° C or 18°
increase, the polymerization rate will double" ...it's an exponential
change
.......the half-as-fast ratio actually makes sense for polymer clay
especially when the curing time is much longer since so many people report
baking lower and longer and still getting strong clay --and sometimes just
baking longer than minimum times for stronger clay in general -- and also
fits with some other bits of information I've heard over the years and couldn't
explain
..The darkening or ambering of the colors occcurs because
certain higher temps can cause side reactions, such as oxidation
of the pigments and other materials.
(for a bit more info on this, see Baking
> Controversies)
WEIGHTS & PRICES, etc, of diff. brands
The
weights of clay (in packages or boxes) may
differ from each other
by brand (true for "small"
bars & "large" bars-bricks)
......and sometimes manufacturers
change the weight sold in a particular-size package,
or weight may be different outside the US
...(a brand with the heaviest small
or large bar usually isn't necessarily the heaviest in its other sizes as well)
...the Fimos and Cernit are manufactured in Europe with the metric system,
so that may account for some diff's?...how?
So the weights
of bars should be taken into consideration when figuring the real
cost of clay from various brands and suppliers!
SMALL BARS (......heaviest to lightest, in grams
& ounces ):
Kato ( 85 g =3 oz)
Cernit ( 65
g =2.3 oz)
FimoClassic ( 56
g = 2 oz ...used to be 65 g in US ...may be 63 g outside US )
FimoSoft ( 56 g =2 oz)
Premo & Sculpey
III ( 56 g =2 oz)
LARGE BRICKS
(......heaviest to lightest, in ounces):
Premo & Sculpey III** ( 16 oz ..1 lb)
Kato
(12.5 oz)
FimoClassic ( 12.3 oz = 350 g)
FimoSoft ( 12.3 oz = 350 g)
Cernit
(10.5 oz ....sold as six 2.3 oz bars sometimes)
**large
bricks of Sculpey III are not easily available
...but plain
Sculpey and SuperSculpey come in boxes of heavier weights, from
1 lb on up
PRICES will depend on factors
like:
....the brand selected
....where purchased & when
(which store if retail, or which supplier if mail order...also whether
having a sale, shipping/handling charges, and in the case of Kato
clay whether it's a metallic clay) & weight
(Feb
05)...at this moment it appears that in general:
.....by
WEIGHT, in the U.S., the Fimos are most expensive ....Premo
& Sculpey III fall the middle .... Kato Polyclay
is the cheapest
.....also, large bricks are almost always cheaper
by weight than an equivalent weight of small bars (though usually available
only by mail order)
retail craft stores like Michaels
often have sales on their polymer
clays
...sometimes all clays will be 99 cents for the
small bars, sometimes there will be differences in price between brands (some
will be higher, or not on sale)
...it's well worth getting a "rain
check" for any color they do 't have in stock at the time of the
sale (can get multiple colors)
.....they may never need to be used,
but can be great if there's a certain color you use a lot of (like white or translucent)
.....they
will be honored any time the color is in stock (...expiration date?)
(however, I've heard Sculpey III can usually be found at Walmart, at 99 cents, which is as cheap as it gets...seems to be a "loss leader"... my Walmart has very little though)
One block of 2 oz clay that's 1 mm thick will cover 23 cm square ... (courtesy of math-by-TeraGram)
COLORS for
each
brand
(places
to see them online)
NOTE:/ colors seen online, especially if not photos of actual clay, can be quite misleading!
Premo, Sculpey III, and Fimos--but
Fimos all mixed in together tho? (at Munro's)
http://www.munrocrafts.com/polyclaycolors.html
Kato Polyclay (at Kato) http://prairiecraft.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=KP
Kato
Polyclay (at PCE) http://polymerclayexpress.com/katoclay.html
Premo
(at PCE) http://polymerclayexpress.com/premo.html
Premo
(at Clay Factory) http://www.clayfactory.net/sculpey/premo.htm
FimoClassic
(at AI) http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fimo/everything-fimo-fimo-classic-2oz.html
FimoClassic
(at PCE) http://polymerclayexpress.com/fimo.html
FimoSoft (at PCE) http://polymerclayexpress.com/images/fimosoftcolorchart.jpg
(actual bars)
http://polymerclayexpress.com/fimosoft.html
FimoSoft
(at A.I.) http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fimo/everything-fimo.html
Sculpey
III (at PCE) http://polymerclayexpress.com/sculpey.html
Sculpey III (at Clay Factory) http://www.clayfactory.net/sculpey/sculpey.htm
Cernit
(at PCE) http://polymerclayexpress.com/cernit.html
...http://www.clayalley.com/cernit.htm
http://www.clayfactory.net/cernit/cernit.html
(more in Supply Sources > Mail Order)
(for info on the properties of the pigments that create color in polymer clay, see Color > Helpful Tips > Pigments)
STRENGTH .....RIGIDITY, .FLEXIBILITY
It is a common misconception that polymer clay will be rock
hard after baking like earth clay will ...you can
actually dent the surface of a polymer bead with a fingernail if you really try.
I believe it's the "plasticizers" in polymer clay that give it some
amount of flexibility.
This flexibilty shows up mostly in thinner
pieces (and projecting areas) of the stronger clays (they're
actually bendable when very thin). . . however, that's also what prevents
them from breaking when stressed, as opposed to earth clays.
(Polymer
clays also soften somewhat during baking, so will not attain their normal hardness
till cool.)
NOTE: There have been various reformulations of the brands and lines of polymer clay over the years, which has often resulted in changes in their characteristics, mostly re strength.
http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/shop/tension_test.htm
Many
of the polymer clay brands are similar in this characteristic,
...but the
exceptions are Sculpey (actually Sculpey, SuperSculpey
and Sculpey III), and to a lesser extent the new version of FimoSoft.
......the Sculpey's are much "harder" after baking (don't know about new FS
yet), although flexibility is then lost and therefore much the ability to withstand
stress.
...(btw, roundish beads or items of any clay brand will
be difficult to break though because of the inherent strength of the rounded shapes)
So
the bottom line on strength for the mostly common clay brands is:
STRONG:
Premo, Kato, Cernit, SuperSculpey Firm
MEDIUM (probably): FimoClassic... then
FimoSoft, Studio by Sculpey
WEAK: Sculpey (weakest), SuperSculpey, SculpeyIII
However
the flexibility of stronger brands doesn't seem to be a problem most of the time
(most clayers don't even notice unless it's a really thin piece)
If
you do want to make a thin clay piece stiffer
though, there are several things you can do:
--back it with more clay
.....either lay the raw piece on another raw piece of same-colored
clay and then cut it to the same size and shape just as a backing
.....or
use a different color clay underneath a bit larger than the original
piece, to act as a frame
--using liquid clay between layers can stiffen
them a bit too
--embed some kind of armature inside the clay (like a
bit of wire mesh or cardstock inside the ear of an animal, or a toothpick or bit
of wire inside arm/fingers)
.....you can also use the Sculpey clays
(they bake up harder) (or FimoSoft?) as armatures or cores,
or as backing, under (or inside) other clay layer
.... this will make the
outer layer also "feel" harder (some people like to create a 3-D shape with one
of those clays, bake, then cover them with a layer of decorative clay)
....
if you want the piece lightweight also, you can use scrunched aluminum
foil, various polystyrene foams, Sculpey Ultralight clay, or
other things)
--attach the thin clay to a (non-clay)
surface (e.g., covering a glass votive, or a metal Altoid tin)
--try to
attach projecting bits (like arms or heads) to other clay with as much
contact as possible (press an arm to its body, e.g.)
--mix your
weak clay with a stronger clay (the resulting combo will have proportional strength
..mix .50-50 at least)
for increased strength in solid
clays, I've even tried teasing/chopping up scrap bits of the (real,
pongee) silk, and encorporating them into solid clay
....it
does work quite well as long as you don't overdo it and add so much that it can
be seen (actually, the texturing can quite be a pleasing effect)... ....the added
strength can be very handy in pieces likely to be used in more 'hostile' circumstances
like childrens' toys or jewellery worn by younger people etc etc.
Some
time ago I ran a flexibility tests on all colors and a few brands
of the clay
.. I found out that color really doesn't matter...the one exception
was: translucent which seems to be somewhat stronger than some of
the others.
(see much more
about the relative strength and flexibility of the clays on this page, from some
older experiments
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/tests.htm
)
(see also Summary > "Baking polymer clays" above, for the relationship between baking temperatures & times)
Shrinkage
(noticeable in larger, fit-together pieces only?)
...I learned not
to assume perfect fit a couple of years ago when I did a piece which was supposed
to have exactly 6" square tiles. 54 of them. After the first 18 didn't
fit quite perfect in their places, I got wise!! Anyway: All brands of clay can
shrink. The ratio can be from 1% to 5%. I found it depends on the softness/stickiness
of the clay--how much solvent and plasticizer is present. thus leached
clay will shrink less than fresh clay. the thickness of the sheet seems to
have an inverse relationship to shrinkage: a thinner #4 or 5 sheet will shrink
more than a # 1 sheet... I suppose this is some factor of resistance and "stretch";
ie. the thicker piece has more body to resist the force of inward shrinkage. If
what you are doing needs to be precise, I would suggest you either do a test piece
and calculate your final cuts based on the shrinkage you find. Or cut your piece
slightly larger than what is needed and trim or sand down to fit after baking.
Patti Kimle
. . . someone also said their tiles didn't shrink when placed
between two bathroom tiles...
...Finding the shrink rate of polymer clay
can be tricky. I've found that it varries because each batch of clay is
slightly different. I would suggest you roll out a four or six inch sheet of clay
and mark off the inches before baking. Remeasure after it's baked and you'll get
a sense of how much shrink you're dealing with. I've never done this with a mathematical
formula, but it gave me enough information to guesstimate. I made some flat polymer
art for tissue boxes once and came up a good eigth of an inch short lengthwise
after baking! For something small, the shrink would not be so critical. Jody
...shrinkage
is brand dependent and also dependent on what, if anything, encases the
clay. In placing clay faux cabs in bezels of copper, brass or nickel
alloy, I've found Kato clay shrinks least (bezel only needs to be "set"
burnished after baking with bezel on clay during baking) and,
"old" Sculpy shrinks most (and is softest)...
setting cannot be enclosed in bezel as setting shrinks too much. Premo
is close to Kato clay. Paul
....(see a bit more under the sub-category on
this page: Premo)
...I have also found that the shrinkage
varies greatly if any liquid clay has been used in the clay or by
itself. I am making a church that has different windows depicting
different religions and I used a design under a piece of glass to follow
along to make the TLS windows. The first one was still perfect when sat on the
pattern straight out of the oven when still stuck to the glass. Had already
built my walls so I wanted them just slightly smaller than opening. I used my
blade to lift one end to release from the glass while
still warm. Sat aside to cool. When I came back and
put in opening it was over 1/4" all the way around smaller than when hot
and still stuck to the glass. I made others and when left to cool on the glass
they did not shrink as much--but still had slight shrinkage.
...These are fairly large and I have noticed the larger your piece the
more shrinkage you will have. ...Pieces are 14"X20".. . Jeanne R.
http://www.heartofclay.com/pc/wip.htm
...The thing about making my own bezels that I really like is that
I can shape the outside bezel lip to any shape I like. Then, before I put my backing
on, I can use it like a cookie cutter. So I can prepare my decorative piece...
cut it out to the perfect shape... bake it, sand it and polish it... all before
putting it into the bezel. No distortion to the design at all. Likewise... I can
polish the bezel up to a high shine before putting the clay in. Then burnish the
edge down to trap the clay piece... just like you would with a stone.. no worries
about it popping out. And I know it's going to fit perfectly because I used it
to cut the piece out. Very fun. The edges will be very thin too... which I like.
Joanie
Bleeding
clays ...the colors that seem most susceptible are the reds
(or anything with a lot of red in it, e.g. purple)
because of the pigments used
...some reds may
also bleed even after some time, even in
baked clays???)
. . . I've noticed several of my collected items that
were made with Fimo have "fugitive" reds also. In fact, that's how
I can tell they are Fimo. . . . .when Premo was being developed,
Polyform was asked to address (and not allow) this.
...Fimo's
glitter metallics bleed (esp. blue and red) so be aware of this when caning
with them. It shows up very quickly. Faber is to correct this now. The effect
can be quite interesting, sort of a 'Skinner Blend" but only if you know it's
what you want! Donna K.
prevention:
some colors of some brands do bleed, a problem esp. for caners
....Marie Segal
outlines every cane segment in black (or a dark color) for
many of her canes. This border color prevents bleeding and produces a bright pattern
that reduces without the losing integrity of the design. Katherine Dewey
...I
have found that mixing in a little more than one part translucent
to every 2 parts red will prevent bleeding & make that nasty RED (Fimo’s)
easier to work with (when caning). Marilyn
...especially make sure that your
bleeding colors don't sit next to lighter colors for long when raw
.
...also make sure these colors get baked completely to avoid leaving any
plasticizer whch could flow into adjacent clay over time, taking pigment with
it.
(see more on bleeding below, esp. in the subcategories on FimoSoft
and Sculpey III... and also see Sculpting
> White or Light Clays)
Pearl clay seems to be more opaque than most - not surprising with all that mica in there, I suppose (so the background didn't show through even with a thin slice over it). Alan V.
LEACHING ....to firm up solid polymer clays if nec.
If the clay (Sculpey or any other clay) is just too soft for your purposes (this can also be because it’s very fresh), you can make it firmer by "LEACHING" it. This removes some of the oily plasticizer. To do this, roll the clay out and place it between several clean sheets of paper. It’s best to then weight this with something heavy (putting something unporous between paper and heavy item). You can leave it this way for an hour or more, or even overnight; some of the plasticizer will have been absorbed by the paper, and the clay will be stiffer.
I found a great way to leach the clay without having a bunch of clay around with books on top of it. I used the brown paper bags, print side down, cut it into strips. Then I put the clay through the pasta machine on a one setting then laid it on the brown paper strips, placed another piece on top and rolled the whole thing up like a jelly roll! THEN I put a bunch of rubber bands around the whole tube, to give it extra pressure, and it took brand new STICKY translucent clay and turned it into something workable! When I opened it up a day later, the paper was totally saturated. .Leigh
I've had great success with cereal boxes ( after eating the cereal!). Try 2 or 3 hours at first, the cardboard really (leaches it) in a hurry. Bob
Change
the paper after overnight. It can take from one to three days to leach out the
extra plasticiser...
Being the impatient person I am, I've not ever waited
this long for leaching Premo. I love the typing paper, as it soaks up extra plasticizer
pretty quickly, and it gives me a use for my inkjet waste paper... I usually run
the clay through #4 on the Atlas (maybe that's why it works fast for me...maybe
I do it on a thinner setting?) and put it between the typing paper and put it
under the cushion of my hard wood seated chair. 20-30 minutes later, I'm
ready to go...oh yeah, you have to be SITTING on that cushion for the quick
results. Sometimes it takes more than one time, but most times only one good seating.
:) You can tell when it's 'done', or at least the paper needs to be changed because
it looks oily all the way through. Make sure to give it a few passes through the
PM after leaching to redistribute evenly the plasticizer is left in the clay.
. . . . And just a word for leaching...I never used to do it until I took Pier
Voulkos' metallics class where she had leached clay...and WOW what a difference
it makes to work with clay that is a little more stiff! **lori
Instead of
waiting for it to leach, why don't you sit on it while you're working.
It will leach so much faster. After about 20 minutes you should see the
oils leached in to the paper. Change the paper and sit on it again. You'll have
clay that's pretty firm in no time. Oscelyn
You were leaching FIMO. Fimo reacts differently to leaching, in my experience, than the other clays. It does exactly that... crumbles. With really fresh fimo I am not sure there is a really simple way to alter it's consistency other than put it on the shelf and wait til it 'matures' sounds like maybe a leech half and mix it back together might work out. You can mix it with unleached Fimo though. Also FimoSoft leaches okay..
~If your ordered clay comes too soft . . . (besides leaching, the other thing that really helps is to buy in bulk during the fall, winter or spring (avoiding the hot shipping times) and let it sit for a while...like "aging" one's meat or cheese. I have much better results with clay that's been sitting for a month or several---the fresh stuff is tooo fresh, and I don't even have warm hands. After a little aging time here in the basement studio (in a dark drawer, kept at an even temp) its much easier clay to work with. I do this with both fimo and premo, and the clays stay workable for years and years. Howard at the ClayFactory says "10 years or more" for shelf life stored correctly....we'll see. I've got old classic fimo stockpiled that is 6 years old now, and quite usuable. Sarajane
I
have recently learned that leaching not only removes some of the plasticiser--making
the clay less sticky to handle--it also takes out
some of the stabilizers. Sarajane
...What
exactly does this mean for the clay once it's baked? . . . .that it's more
likely to crumble, be more breakable if stressed, or have some other
effects? Diane B.
...The short answer is "yes".. It
also removes color stabilizers that help keep
the colors from changing. (As to long term-comparative tests, I don't think
any have been done yet. Someone would need to break a block into two parts, wick
half and leave half alone, then bake and comepare--and compare again in a year
and in two.) . . . It does change the strength though, and I was told that
changing the chemical formulae may not be a real good idea, and that wicking/leaching
takes out stuff that's in there for a reason, and not just "excess moisture".
Sarajane
(for more on leaching
clays, see Conditioning > Leaching)
For
detailed sculpting work that demands a very firm clay, change the
paper after 6 hours and continue leaching... or let it sit for 2 to 4 days. It
depends on the original consistency of the clay.
...I use the following "fitness
test" to determine if the clay's right for modeling:
Roll the the clay into a ball and cut the ball in half. Put the ball back
together by sealing the seams using thumb or finger strokes only. If the
clay loses its shape, it's too soft for modeling.
If seams blend easily, yet the two hemispheres retain their shape,
the clay's generally just right. Katherine Dewey
(...for cooling clay to keep it from being too soft if you have hot hands or are in a hot environment, see Conditioning > Cooling)
Bubbles & Plaques (summ) ...Crumbling or Softening after baking .. Allergies
There are several known reasons why clay may have bubbles, principally the introduction of moisture or air into the raw clay, or not pressing the clay well to another surface, leaving trapped air which will expand with baking. The following may apply to both bubbles and "plaques" --half-moon shaped lighter areas in baked clay:
"Plaques are little half-moon
shapes of slightly more opaque color which often show up when translucents are
baked, especially in thicker amounts and with lighter colors. We think they're
caused by moisture already present in
the clay or from hands. Some people think that air incorporated
into the clay can be a factor too. . . This shows up with SuperSculpey too as
it is mostly translucent; in fact, some boxes of SuperSculpey seem to just
have more plaquing than other boxes" (other packages, colors
or brands too?).
....Use dry and clean hands when handling
the clay to avoid any water
or oils which might be present
on your hands)
...and condition by hand rather than doing it
in a pasta machine.
...(you probably already know to be careful not to
feed clay in to the pasta machine with the fold on top, right? . .
. that would certainly trap air).
...bubbles
can also be caused by bits of clay stuck in the pasta machine insides,
catching on raw clay as it goes through; if you think that might be the case,
try cleaning the pm well before putting the clay through.
.....If you're getting
bubbles while using layers or slices of clay, it could be that there is
air trapped beneath them which doesn't show up until heating. In
that case, you might lay sheets down from the middle out, and them
brayer them toward the outside, or press slices down well before adding a next
one.
......if possible, you can also bake any flat items under a
flat weight (the weight should have a piece of paper under it to prevent shiny
spots unless you're using a terra cotta tile or something similar); let cool with
the weight also... this will keep any bubbles that form flattened
There are lots of reasons that you could get bubbling in your clay, but probably the most frequent reason is too high a temperature. Elizabeth
(for more
on preventing or fixing bubbles in clay, see
Pasta Machines
> Problems > Bubbles (not only about pasta
machine bubbles)
....and maybe also Eggs
> Bubbles
& Cracks)
Any
of the clays will crumble later
(after baking)
if you don't bake properly, but Sculpey III is the
biggest problem
...(raw) clay
is full of plastisizers, they keep the clay soft... when you bake, you
bake them off... but if you don't bake it long enough, you don't kill off
all of the plastisizors....then when you take it out of the oven, and the piece
cools down, the plastisizors
Those nasty plastisizors
live on your hands also and they love to eat the shine
off of beautiful shiny finishes on finished pieces,
so you shouldn't pick up anything with a beautiful finish on it without washing
your hands eather!! leigh
NOTE: Though unlikely,
it is possible to get an allergic
reaction to one or more brands of polymer clay (especially itching or rashes).
....if
you suspect this might be happening, to read more info and get info on barrier
creams and gloves, see Safety > Rashes
.
PREMO
(see
suppliers at top)
bake at 275°
for maximum strength (...not
265 like the Fimos...)
...for 20-30 min per 1/2"
of thickness
small bars of Premo are exactly 2 oz (56 g) ....large
bricks are 16 oz (1 lb)
NAME
...Polyform named this clay "Premo! Sculpey" (probably
to associate it with their other clay line, "Sculpey")...but
since Premo is such a different clay from the Sculpeys in its characteristics
(not to mention being a mouthful for a name), you'll usually see this clay referred
to only as "Premo" --except perhaps anywhere
the name is published and must be the exact trademarked name.
...in
it's beta version, Premo was named CFC or CFC/Premo, because Marie
Segal company is called The Clay Factory of Escondido
.....the bleached
version of their translucent may still be referred to with the CFC initials...
now called Frost
HISTORY:
When Marie Segal
(who owns the Clay Factory) decided no longer to carry Fimo, she couldn't find
any other clays or combinations of clays which really suited most polyclayers
(the difficulty of conditioning Fimo was a great problem for many anyway). So
she set out to create a brand new line of clay for Polyform (makers of Sculpey
and Promat, which was being discontinued) --a clay which would have the best
advantages of clays then on the market (strength, ease of conditioning, flexibility,
and cane-ability. (Polyform
has now taken over the whole process of production.)
COLORS:
When Marie developed Premo, she also created the
Premo colors according to a regular artists' palette ...(in other words,
a warm red and a cool red... a warm blue and a cool
blue, etc) for maximum number of mixables, and also called them by their familiar
artists’ names (cobalt blue, ultramarine blue, cadmium yellow, zinc yellow)
for ease of mixability.
..
"special colors" of Premo:
..... range of metallics
(mica-containing clays --includes "Pearl" which is a colorless
mica clay ... see Mica)
.....2 translucents
& a "base" color... fluorescents
...a glow in the dark (see Translucents)
...the
following 14 colors
will be discontinued
in the 1-lb size
after Jan.1, 2005:
........zinc yellow, alizarin
crimson, turquoise, violet, orange, fuschia (all important
basic mixing colors, & impossible to make true from other colors
...ack!)
........sea green .... red and
green Pearl...Fluorescent yellow, red, green, and pink .... Glow in the Dark
(the reason given is that they "don't sell well enough" from mail
order suppliers --no retail stores have requested to carry 1-lb. bars however)
CONSISTENCY,
STRENGTH, etc: ...Premo is a very popular middle-of-the-road brand
...it's softer and
easier to condition than FimoClassic ... but firmer
than Sculpey
...it's
very strong after baking and very flexible in thin areas
(FC strong, Sculpey weak)
....... to condition, needs no chopping
... cut off a slab just a bit thicker than the widest setting of your pasta
machine, then run it through a few times until it’s malleable (or in your hands
if you don’t have a pasta machine).
Premo
is very temperature sensitive... this is good for
some things, but can be more of a problem in hot rooms,
for those with hot hands, and for those who like
to fiddle with their clay a
lot. ....so it can
be a bit stickier than other clays under some conditions.
....I know
what you mean!! I've responded to several SOS calls at Clay Days from people who
had overworked their Premo to mush. But once
they get the picture that they don't have to handle, handle,
handle, and keep working it like they did with Fimo, they are ONE
HAPPY CAMPER!! .... probably about the same learning curve as driving an automatic
after driving stick . .. Syndee
To
cool clay when it gets too soft or sticky (& Premo
is the brand which can definitely get sticky)
.....put the clay in the refrigerator
or freezer for awhile (especially before trying to slice
a cane, or even make certain shapes to be assembled into a cane)
...
let it sit for awhile
....use a marble slab as a work surface
since it tends to stay cooler than the surrounding air.
.........chill
the work surface (a ceramic tile, or marble, e.g.)
..............I
have a couple of tiles to work on. I keep one tile in the fridge,
and rotate to the other when the 1st starts to warm up...Laurel
....let the clay
sit on a gel pack when you're not actually manipulating it or for short
periods between work
........a gel pack can also be used to cool
your hands as you work.
....I dip my hands periodically into
ice water.Dotty in CA
To firm up your clay ....(if your ordered clay
comes to you too
soft, or for other reasons):
....you
can leach some of the plasticizers out of it by placing paper on both sides
and weighting ...they will be pulled into the paper (....see Leaching sub-category
below for more on this process)
....(June 2005)...also
these days, the factory can't keep up with the growth of Premo clay... it used
to sit on the warehouse shelves for the right amount of time to "advance"
naturally to the proper stiffness, but now it's shipped
as soon as it's made (especially
the most popular colors --translucent,
white
and black.
.........so
if you like firmer clay and you have the time, it's best to allow Premo
to sit around your house for 6 months before you open the package;
the clay will advance considerably.
........or you can learn to love the
clay fresh and goopy, like I did. :).... I've gotten to where I actually prefer
that really fresh softness for most things. It's my favorite clay. Elizabeth
...another
other thing that really helps is to buy in bulk during the fall,
winter or spring (avoid the hot shipping times
of year)
and also let it sit for a while ...like "aging"
one's meat or cheese.... after a little time in the basement studio (in a
dark drawer, kept at an even temp), I find it's much easier to work with.
........btw,
I do this with both fimo and premo, and the clays stay workable for years
and years (Howard at the ClayFactory says "10 years or more" for shelf
life if stored correctly) Sarajane
smudgeable clays (those that "smudge"
well for sculpting --Sculpeys & Premo) tend to be insoluble
clays
...so water is the preferred release agent for them,
especially for intricately detailed molds
...(Fimo and Cernit, both initially
firm clays, are soluble clays; both possess a filler (possibly kaolinite)
that absorbs moisture, so talc or cornstarch
are the better release agents for those clays). K. Dewey
Premo . . . . I was having difficultly smoothing it on the doll heads until I tried wetting my fingers. What a difference...it just smooths right out. I love it now
Premo white is dull, and the white and translucent combo darkens in the bake... Dawn
It's been my experience that Premo seems darker when you first take it out of the oven, but then it lightens as it cools.. But I have a whole box of baked color swatches of Premo that match the package colors or raw mixed colors pretty closely.Premo's "Base" color clay : (...the
color was discontinued for awhile, but now available...by the lb. at Clay Factory
& polymerclayexpress ... Puffinalia also has it by the quarter-lb.)
.....it's
slightly translucent... the pigment it does have is a neutral tan/beige
...can be used like SuperSculpey (pinkish) or Mix Quick (white) to extend other
colors
......Base can be used to extend other colors up to one-quarter
......I mix Base up to half and half with the deeply-pigmented
Premo colors.
....I have done a fair amount
of color mixing experiments using the Premo Base color, which is somewhat
translucent. When mixes are compared to mixes with translucents they
appear to be more "milky". ...The stuff works quite well when adding
inclusions (pigments, etc.). ...The analogy that I use is that it is somewhat
akin to bread dough that has more room for flour and that dry pigments won't
make the mixture too stiff and crumbly.
.......It
makes a great background color (good with black, e.g.), and the slight
translucency makes your design really stand out.... I have also colored it with
Pearl-Ex powders with very nice results.
When
I go to the Clay Factory site, I see these colors of Premo: Beige/Flesh, Ecru,
Translucent (5310),Translucent (Frost, 5310-bleached-CFC06-), and Base. So Beige
is not the same as Ecru (though that's confusing! --and at polymerclayexpress,
the word Flesh isn't even used), Ecru is an opaque creamy/tan. Base
is kind of like SuperSculpey (less pink, but still lots of translucent to
be able to mix in with other colors to soften or extend them, though it looks
cool just caned with black, etc.). ...Beige/Flesh is a little translucent,
to be used for skin. Diane B.
...(Beige/Flesh) (for dolls) I'm definitely
going to add a little white to it, because that caused it to have the least amount
of color change from raw to cured... Elizabeth
Premo Beige, is actually
(now called) Premo Flesh. It's quite translucent. To avoid the plaquing
you can just add one pea-sized piece of white Premo to 2 ounces of the Flesh clay.
Premo flesh is really a base clay. In other words, it's not intended to
be used as it. It's a starting point to which you add various colors of clay to
get the type of skin...tone you wish. It's a middle of the road color with a nice
translucent quality which, even when mixed with opaque colors, gives the finished
piece a porcelian look. Dotty
Premo 5092 Beige.... I use it as a base
color. It's in the regular Premo section of PCE, for sure... don't know
about the other sites. It's very translucent, clearer, darker and pinker than
Super Sculpey, and of course, a lot stronger. It's intended to be used as
a base, mixing in whatever colors you like to achieve the color that you're going
for. The color mix that I told you about changes color very little in extended
and repeated curing. Clay Factory used to make a color that they called "Base,"
but I don't think they make it any more?? - at least, that was the last
I read. Elizabeth
(for combining Base with other colors to get individual
skin tones, see Faces/Skin Tones).
....for all info on Premo's clear translucent clays (and glow-in-the-dark clays)... see Translucents
Anyone
tried the new Christmas Red ?
....The color is nice but it plaques
like a much lighter clay (such as flesh or translucent). Cathy
(isn't
available yet --they're still experimenting with it??)
From what I understand
about this new color... it behaves differently than a really opaque color. That
is, it will show through any color that's next to or under it --Sculpey's old
yellow was similar and very disappointing, in a cane especially. Also, in general,
certain colors (especially non-light ones) will tend to darken with baking. A
solution some people use is to add about 1/6 white to help compensate. Diane B.
I have noticed that pieces from Premo which I have sanded and buffed seem to be harder and tougher than any of the clays. Jeanne R.
Also have noticed that when Diluent-Softener is added to Premo, the baked clay is more "rubbier" and does not break or snap as easily. Just bends more. Jeanne R.
My experience has been
that the Premo shrinks up
more than FimoClassic. ...On the smaller notebook covers
I made it wasn't a problem... but on the larger ones
the holes wouldn't line up with Premo. Fimo worked okay on the larger ones though,
even though it has a bit of shrinkage too, I could still line the holes
up enough to use the covers..... Biggest question I have is whether the diluent
affects the shrinkage rate. I suspect it does, but think it would be hard to pinpoint
how much as I add more diluent according to how much Pearl-ex powders that
I have added for tinting the TLS. Also, the TLS if fresh seems to not need
as much as older TLS. Jeanne
The other place I've had problems with shrinkage
is on my fish boxes... or paperweights... where I'm encasing something larger.
If the clay shrinks, it has no where to shrink up TO in a project of that sort...
so it cracks. I've had repeated cracking on these projects with the Premo...
so I'm sticking to the Fimo for those now. Sadly so, as I really like the metallics...
but damage control is more time consuming than making the entire project should
be. Water baths do nothing to close up the cracking on these encased items...
that's why I'm convinced it's a shrinkage problem. This is NOT a shot at Premo....
it's just a noted limitation. It helps you choose the clay that's right for the
project you're working on at any given time. Joanie
(however, see above
in Miscellaneous for more info)
In numerous tests that I and a friend have done,
Premo comes out the strongest. However, Fimo certainly is a good strong
clay and you should have no fear in using it. Premo is more flexible than Fimo
if baked correctly and that may be why it stood up better. You can bend and twist
it and it refuses to tear or break. Dotty
Please, correct me if I'm
wrong about this - I think Premo is inconsistently strong. Cobalt blue is very
strong, but Alizarin Crimson isn't. I baked some sample tiles and then flexed
them and the Aliz Crim just snapped instead of flexing at all. A friend of mine
had some Premo white she used to make thin pins and they just cracked apart! The
problem may be in the manufacturing - they'll not computerized and the factory
is open to the elements (high humidity some days, none on others). I think there
are differences batch to batch.
I
do think that the Fimo white is a brighter white than Premo's white and it was
quite wonderful to work with. But I haven't had the problem you mentioned about
the white Premo breaking easier. But that could be due to what you said might
be inconsistency in the batches. I may have been lucky with all the Premo colors
I've used as none of them have been brittle or breakable as long as they reach
the 275 temp for the right period of time, which I understand is crucial. Dotty
many clayers mix a combo clay of part Premo and part Kato
clay... they feel doing that yields the best characteristics
....My
favorite clay is now a Premo- Kato combo.... I'm using about 1 pt Kato
to 3 pts Premo.... if I use the very freshest Premo and Kato, I get
my perfect clay.
.......of course, it's important to be sure that they are
mixed competely, so use two slightly different colors so
you'll know when it's done. Jeanne
...also with this combination, the Kato
will make the Premo buffable (without having
to sand it).....and I like the soft matte 'gloss' look (...had
found the Kato alone too hard for me to condition). Carolyn
My
combo of Premo and Cernit holds up much better for
me under similar (strength) situations (....tiny fingers on miniature dolls, for
instance).
..... Cernit/Premo colors are nice also, but darken
a bit if cured too hot.
..... my Cernit/Premo blend also sands, carves,
and endures multiple layers of curing with excellent results. Jeanne
R.
more info on Kato Polyclay
at: http://www.katopolyclay.com/index.html
....came
out in Jan 2002
Kato Polyclay may be cured up
to 325
degrees F....but generally it's baked
at 300
.......at 325, curing time
can be reduced by half (from what's stated
on the pkg... will change the pkg instructions later though?)
(....when
cured at 325, Kato clay is more rigid (less flexible, which would affect
thin areas most), still strong, still with no color change, and
the surface is harder --more like Sculpey's)
....however, if
Kato is mixed
with another brand,
the clay should be cured at the lower tempearature
in order to prevent color shift of the other brand.
old
instructions were: "Bake at 275
degrees for at least ½ hour. Larger pieces may be
cured for hours (with no change in color) ."
... should be the same clay
thouh... Donna just discovered it could be heated higher for even better characteristics
APRIL
2008 --2nd REFORMULATION:
"In response to changes
in California’s Prop. 65 listing of phthalate plasticizers, most polymer clay
manufacturers have reformulated their products... Unfortunately for the adult
crafter and polymer clay artist ...new competitor formulas no longer reflect the
range of techniques published in numerous craft books on the subject. The new
Kato Polyclay formula has maintained all craft attributes
of previous formulas while providing improved (easier) conditioning characteristics.
....(However)
While phthalate plasticizers were cost effective and provided excellent working
properties, the alternative plasticizer that satisfies the demands of the
new regulations, adult crafter, and artist are 50% more expensive.
Starting April 1 (2008) there will be a price increase..."
Donna Kato
(prices and sizes just below are now
for the new line)
....their small bars are 2
oz (56 g) each (used to be 3 oz)
....their
large bricks are 12.5 oz. each, rather than the 16 oz. of
Premo (....but same as the Fimos)
LOCAL SUPPLIERS:...
store locator: http://www.katopolyclay.com/locator.html
Hobby
Lobby carries it ... they alsohave a few of the larger
bricks of Kato---white, black, flesh
Aaron Bros
carried it --but no longer?
few art supply
stores
RETAIL PRICES
... old prices: MSRP list
price of 3 oz bars is 2.29.....and 2.99 for the
metallics (Gold, Silver, Copper, Pearl)
... new prices:
MSRP of 12.5 oz blocks is 9.99.... and12.69 for the
metallics.
We decided rather than to average costs, we would
price according to the cost
of the actual
color. Donna Kato
ONLINE
SUPPLIERS:
Prairiecraft (Donna Kato's site) http://www.prairiecraft.com
....(prices are always at an everyday discount of 20-25% off list price;
further discounts for volumes over $75; low shipping)
PolymerClayExpress
http://www.polymerclayexpress.com/katoclay.html
Kato
clay does come in fewer colors than the other brands, but
the palette was created so that any color can be mixed
from those 17 total colors
INDIVIDUAL bars
(2 or 12.5
oz):
--8 "spectral" colors (pure colors, as in a rainbow
or spectrum... these pure colors weren't mixed with other colors in the factory,
so they can mix to create clear bright colors, if desired, without dulling
or being "toned down")
--4 "neutral" colors
(white, black, brown, beige/flesh)
--4 metallic colors (gold, silver,
copper and Pearl--which has as much color removed as possible)
--1 translucent
color
SETS ("sample packs")
1 oz bars, in
sets of 4
--4 concentrates (red, blue, yellow, green)
--4 primary
colors (___) .... 4 neutral colors (__)
--4 warm colors (__)...
4 cool colors (__)
--4 metallic colors (__)
2 oz bars,
in set of __?: "Master Sample Pack"
all Kato's
spectral and neutral colors are opaque (not the translucent
or metallics, of course)
... this is not true for every "regular"
color of other brands (..so be aware of this when creating votives,
etc; will have to add some transcluent)
The 4 Kato Concentrates
(red, blue, yellow, green) are formulated with a high concentration of color pigment..
sold in sets only
....these clays are not used alone...
only as "tinting aids to produce other colors, or they're added in
small quantities to existing colors to create a color not currently in the Kato
Polyclay color line.
......mix with standard colors for increased color
saturation
......mix with the metallic colors to create jewel tones
......mix
with translucent to achieve transparent colors
(Kato Clay also has a clear liquid clay and several pre-colored liquid clays...as well as Repel Gel, glues, tools, etc)
Kato Clay
has a great page illustrating the color wheel Kato clays make, and
info about mixing
http://www.katopolyclay.com/colormixing.html
the following was written before the reformulation of April 2008 (see just
above),
but most things will still be the same (except conditioning which
is easier)
The clay is vacuum extruded so that
it is more dense than other clays
... this results in a number of desirable
characterstics for manipulating, baking, strength, carving/drilling,
transfers, and caning & slicing, and also results in a dense
baked surface with a slight natural sheen
http://www.prairiecraft.com/colorchart.html
(for more info)
Kato Polyclay is definately the strongest! Both Judy Belcher's daughter Maria and my son Jeremy did school science projects testing the tensile strength of several different polymer clays and the results proved that far and away that Kato Polyclay was the most durable and resiliant polymer clay. Lisa P.
This clay is GREAT!!!! It is soft,
but not too soft. Not sticky as you've already heard.
.... It is easy
to condition. It can be conditioned by hand easily or a couple passes thru
the pasta machine will do it. Julie W.
.......I also think that the clay can
be overconditioned - that's happened to me and the
result was that bits came off the surface.
.......I've done this! Kneaded
and rolled the clay to such an extent that bits of clay from the surface pull
away. Of course, this was so frustrating, I just kept rolling through (thinking
that I could correct it). Dumb! Finally, I let it rest and then it was
fine. Donna Kato
I found Kato clay did not hold its conditioning for long .... by this I mean that if you condition and make a blend tonight, and then try to use it a day or so later, it will be crumbly. Patty B. (still true with 2008 reforumulation though?)
canes
reduce easily. It slices easily with no dragging or smearing!!!!! Julie W.
....If
you do any caning, this clay is fabulous! I can cut clean, distortion-free
slices from my canes immediately after reduction.
.....canes I have made last winter are still pliable and don't crack
when sliced or reduced. Lisa P.
(I've been using Kato clay
for 3 weeks, and so far) it is a caner's dream. Not as resistant as Fimo, not
as soft as Premo, for me it has just the right amount of give and
I don't turn it to mush in my hot hands.
...My notes so far: the red has
been the squishiest for me. My guess is the dye. Since the infamous red dye No.
(2?) was removed from the market, good red dyes have been harder to come by....
black has been kinda squishy, too. Again, prolly the dye. ...The rest
of the colors I have tried seem to have very similar consistency, which makes
caning easier.... The translucent seems to be more transparent than others
and much less likely to turn yellow. I even use a layer of No. 6 instead of 7
many times..... If anyone out there is heavy-handed and/or has hot hands like
me, do give it a try. (Colors I've used to date: red, black, white, blue, turquoise,
violet, yellow, orange, green and trans.) Kim K.
Tommie's
saga re testing the new Kato Polyclay for sculpting (he liked it
very much, and felt that it raw clay blended to rbaked clay was very smooth and
that it was very strong, among other things)
http://www.polymerclayhaven.com/lessons/dragonart.htm
....It adhered to itself well...Jacqueline
....(Dawndove felt the
skin color was too orangey and opaque for skin though) I did my best face
sculpt yet out of it (despite the skintone issue) because it took the tooling
so nicely. And seams lovely. That nice blending of pieces together.
Dawndove
...~I tried the flesh color to sculpt a fairy with,
and wasn't impressed with the color (too peachy) or the translucency
of the skin after it was baked. So I tried mixing it with translucent.
Still didn't like it. And the feel was a bit too mooshy, for my tastes.
Some people like Cernit feeling clays, so I'm not knocking it, it was not
for me. Guess I'll be a Super Sculpey girl forever.... I do like the clay, it's
just different from anything I've tried. Ginger
....Vernon said when I first
ordered it that they were going to change the color of the flesh to something
with less orange. Leslie
....Works great for all my claying needs except
for sculpting. Still prefer Pro- Sculpt for sculpting. Jeanne
Kato
Polyclay is not as fragile as other brands when warm. Donna
says, "When I make small box vessels covering a clay form I can actually twist
the interior form to loosen the box walls without the walls breaking."
...
could lead to being able to do simple origami as it cools?
surface appearance is a soft sheen after baking. . . but
can also be altered to achieve a more matte finish by:
.......applying
cornstarch to raw clay before curing (...rinse off, if any still
present after baking)
....... sanding
and then using 0000 steel wool mattes the sheen a lot. Dotty
...to achieve the appearance of frosted glass, the surface can be
scraped lightly with the tip of a metal file. Trina
...Donna
scratched off the surface of a piece of black baked clay (the handle of a brush),
and it made it look like soft velvet. Very nice effect. Dotty
...I
agree that Kato Polyclay's
baked surface finish
isn't as natural
looking when
making organic faux
items though (...but could use one of the matte ideas above). Dotty
And
did I mention the smell ? Kellie told me that there is a new
formula in the works (if not already out there) that is much less "aromatic"...
Karen O.
...(June 2004).... we conditioned and worked with about a Kazillion
pounds of clay in a fairly small room this weekend and I never noticed an odor.
Linda in VA
EARLIER: I was one who at first did like the smell, but with later
samples, I did not notice the smell anymore. I agree with (was it Julie??
Or Tara??) the PCPer who said it smells somewhat like a new doll. Dianne C
...The smell reminded me of 1st grade art class. Deirdre ...that new plastic smell
. . or like glue
...the clay has a rather sweet smell. Dotty
...I rather
like the smell. :) It reminds me of a new doll. We each smell things differently..but
it's not offensive to me at all! Jan
...reminds me of a plastic shower curtain
liner, but doesn't bother me. Emily N.
......Donna said
that they put extra mica in the metallic & pearl
clays to give it a heavier metallic effect (mica shift) but
because of that it is a little harder
to condition and is a little drier (crumbles
more easily). I really didn't find it all that difficult to condition ...
you just have to be aware of it. catbyte
...The silver Kato clay is
really lovely. Donna was doing some mica-shift projects with it which were stunning.
Dotty
...some people feel the silver and copper are the best
of the Kato metallics
..the mica effect of the
metallics and pearl carries over even when only small bits of
them are mixed with other colors! (Vernon)
.......Donna showed
samples of the metallics "diluted" with translucent. ... mixing
1 to 1, or even 1 to 2 (metallic to translucent),
still had a very pronounced mica shift effect. Lenora
The flexibility
(& memory) is incredible ...it's called "warm repositioning"
--this characteristic somewhat
less pronounced after
the first reformulation} .
. . When I took a flat sheet
out of the oven, I curved it into a ring for my finger just for the fun
of it, and it stayed in that position. I could have reflattened it, but
I decided to leave it as a ring. This new clay (Kato clay) has some definate
characteristics that sets it apart from the other clays. Deirdre
....(One
of the main reasons I have chosen to use Fimo over Premo is because Fimo
has such good "memory". I like to go back and re-position arms etc.
I know this doesn't seem like it would be a problem, but when I am mass producing
some of my items, hours may go by before I am able to go back and re-position.
Mirella)
....if only partially
baked though, thin sheets or areas are sometimes
very easy to tear while still hot (as the
piece cools, it hardens and becomes very tough, if baked correctly).
....what
about covering bottles of lotion, stand-up toothpaste containers, etc.,
while cooling?
(for more details on warm repositioning and on making
removable sleeves of clay, see Covering >
Removable Sleeves)
In the beginning of its
production, some of the Kato clay shipped out was partially
cured in hot delivery trucks. They're taking precautions
against heat while shipping now though (and also have a new formulation).
. .
......In the summer heat, Prairie Craft will now rotate its Kato
Polyclay stock through our refrigerator and ship in an insulated carton
at no additional cost... We do, however, recommend 3 day shipping. Vernon,
Prairiecraft
... (I have some of that older, crumbly Kato clay, and I'm treating
it the same way I did with the Fimo Classic. I use my mini-food processor
and adding either some diluent or some mineral oil. Dotty (see more in Conditioning)
Has
anyone tried sanding the Kato Clay yet? I
covered some pens and found that it was soooooo hard to
sand and also gunked up the
sandpaper . . . almost like sanding something coated with TLS .
. .Kathy
..The grit wears off my sandpaper very fast when I'm sanding it and
it doesn't seem to work as well as it does with the other brands.
.....In
fact, I use 220 to start with (rather than 400), and I'm thinking
of getting some even coarser. Trying to sand mica shift stamped things
flat takes forever ....I just picked up 150 grade sandpaper today and I'll see
how that does...Dystini
...Another possibility - quite a while ago Donna mentioned
she was sanding Kato Clay dry, no water. Might work better on the
big bumps. Linda (wear a mask? Kathy)
Since
Kato Polyclay has water repellant properties
and a smooth and shiney finish after baking, it may not take Flecto
Varathane finish
well (it may bead up during application and/or
peel off after drying after some days).
.....To
get around this problem, the clay surface can first be prepared with a bit of
liquid clay first (see details on this in Finishes
> Flecto Varathane > Peeling)
.... or Future can be used
instead, without any problems
... (a new finish just for Katoclay may be
manufactured eventually)
the translucent is beautiful!! ....it does not plaque unless you want to make it plaque (by adding moisture?)! Julie W.
the white Kato Polyclay is a crisp and really really white ...and the black is really black. Julie W.
Unless they change the formula, the black seems to get on hands, etc., easily. Having baby wipes handy can help remove it.
I noticed that the green and the turquoise do exactly like Premo of the same colors and have tiny spots which look like plaquing (not half moon but with lighter looking specks) the first few times through the pasta machine. ..if I let it rest, they disappear after just a couple of more passes. Jeanne
All of the colors are good, but the turquoise doesn't seem quite like turquoise to me. I suppose it depends on what type of turquoise and where it came from. But to me it appears more like a nice medium blue..... so I added some of the green to it and am much happier with that turquoise color. Dotty
ANNOUNCEMENT
& later, from DONNA:
We partnered with Van Aken International on this
product...one of the most well known and well respected companies in the art and
craft materials busines. (they're best known for their Claytoon clay animation
clay ---the California Raisins, Wallace & Grommet, etc.).
So, you might ask,
how is Kato Polyclay different? Here are a few of the ways.
1.
Conditioning - Kato Polyclay is easy to condition, with no crumbling.
...Donna
told me recently that Kato clay should be compressed when you first
take it out of the package.
.....example: use your acrylic roller to mash
down the clay brick... just a bit, doesn't have to be a big flat pancake.
I use a regular rolling pin (easier for my hands) and smash down the center, then
roll/push to each end of the brick. One pass, that's it
.......now it is ready
to be put through the pasta machine or hand conditioned, with no crumbling or
cracking edges. Celia
...it's easier to condition than FimoClassic ... may
be a little more difficult than Premo.
2. Handling - with continuous
kneading and working, Kato Polyclay does not become sticky and, therefore,
maintains its ease or workability.
3. Strength - Kato Polyclay was
deemed as strong or stronger than the other clays testers use - with most
feeling it was stronger. Not one single respondent found it to be less strong.
Additionally, every color shares the same strength.
4. Color
stability - From uncured to cured state, no Kato Polyclay color shifts
more than 1/2 shade, with the majority remaining unchanged from uncured
to cured state. It is virtually "true-color" (other brands change color in baking
much more)
5. Consistency - Colors share the same
consistency and softness. For example, you won't find white very hard
and green very soft. Even consistency promotes even cane reduction, which results
in less distorted imagery and less waste at cane ends.
6. Color Mixing
- Rather than taking an academic approach (this requires that the user have a
rather extensive knowledge of color mixing) we have opted for a more user friendly
and intuitive method. The "Spectral" (rainbow) Colors form the basis
for the creation of all colors. If they were placed on the color wheel, you would
find them very evenly spaced. This approach makes color mixing simple for even
the most inexperienced user.
7. Colors - Colors have been formulated
for maximum purity and brilliance. (Muting a color is simple but you can't take
a muddy color and make it bright)
8. Finish - Once cured, Kato Polyclay
exhibits a satin sheen.
9. Density - As part of the manufacturing
process, Kato Polyclay is vacuum extruded (we are the only company utilizing this
state of the art process). In essence, air from the clay is removed, making the
clay denser and eliminating the need for continuous folding and rolling
to remove air pockets from the clay.
10. Warm repositioning
- Kato Polyclay is not as fragile as other brands when warm. When I make small
box vessels (I cover a clay form) I can actually twist the interior form to loosen
the box walls without the walls breaking. Additionally, Kato Polyclay allows for
a measure of repositioning of elements when warm - the clay maintains its new
position without breaking (...this is lessened with
new formula though...DB).
...Packaging - the ink is sandwiched
between two sheets of acetate so the ink doesn't rub off the
outside (the UPC codes are printed on the outside) or come off inside on the clay.
... We've designed a "Pay for Publication" program covering
not just magazine articles, but Internet projects, videos, and television appearances.
And I did a small transfer test, and I think Kato Polyclay picks
up the ink better than any other clay I've used.... It was a simple black
and white magazine pic transfer, but the intensity of the black that transferred,
and the crisp detail impressed me
.....Also the texture is a bit firmer and
more resistant to fingerprints, and such is really nice. Dawndove
many
clayers mix a combo clay of part Premo and part Kato clay...
they feel doing that yields the best characteristics
....My
favorite clay is now a Premo- Kato combo.... I'm using about 1 pt Kato
to 3 pts Premo.... if I use the very freshest Premo and Kato, I get
my perfect clay.
.......of course, it's important to be sure that they are
mixed competely, so use two slightly different colors so
you'll know when it's done. Jeanne
...also with this combination, the Kato
will make the Premo buffable (without having
to sand it).....and I like the soft matte sheen (...I had
found the Kato alone too hard for me to condition). Carolyn
Julie Wise of
"Razberi Kids" fame and I, are starting a Kato Polyclay usergroup on Yahoo
very soon. You'll be able to get all your answers about Kato Polyclay answered
there as well as your general clay questions. Lisa Pavelka
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/katopolyclay
Fimo
CLASSIC
NOTE:
(June 2007)... yet another new formulation of the Fimos
Bake
at 230°- 265 °
(15-30 min per 1/4- 1/2" of thickness)
.....the
package recommends baking the new clay at 230º (110º C)
.....BUT
clayers have found that the old temp of 265º results in a
stronger product (for just new clay or mixes with the old clay)
.........
at the higher baking temp, the colors won't darken any more than before....however,
some colors (translucents & light ones)
always darken more easily
so those may need a slightly lower temperature (or just tenting-enclosing?)
...both Fimos are now not
as strong as they used to be
...both Fimos are softer
than their previous formulations (becoming softer with each reincarnation) and
have more problems with stretch and
detail
...the
new FimoClassic is now too
soft and tacky
(which makes it almost impossible to use for sculpting).
UGH!!! ... it used to be my favorite for sculpting. Chris
...miniaturists
don't like it as much because of the softer texture
& the color changes
...no
longer offering a translucent
in Classic (now only available in the 'effects' range in
FimoSoft)
...see Reformulations
of Fimo Clays just below for more
NOTE:....this
formula change will often not be reflected
at the entire GlassAttic site ...too many instances to change!
....small bars of FimoClassic (& FimoSoft) can run from 58-65 g (slightly more than the 2 oz of Premo or Sculpey III ... metric system)
There
are now several lines of Fimo clay (...which can be pretty confusing):
--There used to be only one
Fimo line (simply called plain old "Fimo"),
which was very stiff and difficult to condition.
--Nowadays, the original
Fimo is now called "Fimo Classic"
and it has been softened (and in 2007 softened a lot more)..
some of its colors have been discontinued also.
--Fimo has also put out a
second line which is called "Fimo Soft;
...this clay is much softer than Fimo Classic but not as soft as Sculpey III,
etc..
suppliers:
....
local: I checked with my local Michaels the manager is a personal friend,
he said Michaels will discontiue Fimo Classic ???
and only carry FimoSoft, Premo and Sculpey III. Called some
more JoAnn's ETC will carry the same. A large art supply store diffrent
from first also no Fimo classic. (it will still be available by mail order though
--DB)
...online:
see Supply Sources for places to see the colors
and purchase clay
...Fimo
Classic has two sub-categories of colors:
Standard (which includes
the old, heavily plaquing, "00 Art Transparent" and a glow-in-the-dark
clay, Niteglow), and Soft Pastels
...Fimo Soft has 4 sub-categories
of colors:
Flourescents,
Transparents (which includes one
"colorless" Translucent --FS 014)
Metallics (which are actually
glitter clays)
Stone Colors (simulate granite
effects--discontinued-- plus Marble White and possibly Anthracite)
..........(they
have also recently added to the FimoSoft line at least three true metallic, mica-containing,
clays --gold, silver, and copper, plus one semi-glitter/whitish translucent
for simulating opals, etc. called Metallic White)
reformulations of Fimo clays
2007-2008
All
Fimo clays have been reformulated yet again...this time because some customers
felt it was too crumbly
... though the plasticizers used in the previous formulation
were judged okay for toys by the European Union (Fimo is classed as a "toy"),
they also worried that the EU could ban more plasticizers in the future so those
were changed too
...for more info, see http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/shop/fimo_new_formula.htm
........also
see Safety > Plasticizers,
Oils, Phthalates....and Baking
> Times and Temperatures
..Fimo's
flesh-colored doll clays:
.......Miniature Doll Fimo is a lot
softer than it was when it was first re-introduced. The latest batch was very
difficult to use for original sculpts of miniature dolls although it is still
fine for moulding.
.......Soft Doll Fimo is also currently very soft.
We are waiting for more information from the manufacturers about this problem.
(Meanwhile, if you are having difficulties, you may wish to use Sculpey
Living Doll instead. I have found this clay is excellent for making both
full size and miniature dolls.) Sue H..
...dollmakers
particularly are not happy. ...we are currently testing the new clays and observing
their performance for jewellery, modelling, miniatures and doll making. We will
update this page as soon as they are completed. Sue H.
http://www.polymerclaypit.co.uk/acatalog/Information_on_changes_to_Fimo_clays.html
...There is little chance of Eberhard Faber developing
a new line of polymer clay specially for adults and artists, etc....they
cannot put that sort of investment into a new product... also a new adult clay
would have to have a new name, and Faber is not willing to lose their well known
branding. Pat, Philippa, Angie
Sep
2007....The result of our meeting (with the manufacturers of Fimo
re the dissatisfaction of sculptors, caners, etc., with the new formulation)
was that Eberhard Faber realised that we have big problems with the new
FIMO Classic which they take very seriously...They will look at how to improve
it and expect to be able to come back to us by January next year (2008).
Faber marketing director Nils Henssen said: "We will try and work it out and hopefully
come to a satisfactory solution. It is a difficult problem".
Nils wants
to hear about any problems users
have (with the Fimo clays).
.....please get in touch
with him - and pass his email address on to anyone you know (in the UK, US,
or anywhere) who has had experience with the new formula:
nils.henssen@eberhardfaber.de
(see more on this meeting at http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/shop/fimo_new_formula.htm
)
Aug 2001: . . . It was (so I understand)
reformulated somewhat recently, and ever since she's been having problems with
it breaking easily. She used to fire it at 225F in a convection oven, and
now that it's been changed she's got to fire it closer to 275F or 300F to get
it to not break as easily (and it still doesn't stand up to punishment as much
as it used to.) Also, for those wondering, she's using Fimo Classic, and
not Fimo Soft. She also uses clay quickly, so it's never more than a few months
old. The problem she finds with firing at a higher temperature is that the clay
darkens during firing. This can be compensated for by mixing in extra
white clay, but the clay is still more brittle after baking than it
used to be. (Many of the products she produces are made from canes sliced at approximately
1/8", and as such they break easier than they used to.) Kim2
Is she
high altitude? I add 5 degrees becauses I'm over a mile above sea level--the
chemist at Polyform said this would help, and it did. I too noticed the change
in FIMO, and its one reason I use a lot of Premo now. Sarajane
Sep
2001: . . . Fimo is harder than premo, but the new formula is a lot better
to work with than it used to be. For example with the new Fimo classic,
I can cut off slices and feed them straight through my
pasta machine without crumbling, of course we could not do that with the
old stuff! ...I know many american folks who, like me, find fimo classic TOO soft
now!... I find fimo classic softer and nicer to work with than fimo Soft! Emma
...The only real bummer is that the fimo folks seemed to have lost the plot a
little with the changes to the colour pallette. I want the fimo
classic avaible in ALL the same shades as the fimo soft comes in please, AND please
bring back the OLD fimo metallics colour range, the new stuff is just pants with
its big glitter flakes in ;-) My advice, stick to fimo classic! or one of the
Polyform clays. Emma
June 2000: a heads-up word to people
who've really liked the firmness of Fimo--its been softened!
..The
new Classic Fimo (which they swear is the same formula--NOT!) is
soft and sticks to your hands, however it does cane and reduce well, and makes
it through the Laundry strength Test (we are at 20 times through and buttons are
holding up fine)
......IMHO, Fimo and Premo are meeting in the middle
......you
may note that the new classic Fimo is leaning towards the Premo pallette
.....(Premo
is still more heat-sensitive in it's response than Fimo---something to remember
with really big canes or with really hot hands.) Sarajane Helm
more
on Fimo Class characteristics... written for various
formulations
(most may no longer be true)
The new formulation of Fimo Classic does have one drawback in that it does seem to have more air bubbles in it. This hasn't been a problem for me, but I know that for some people doing project using flat sheets, it has caused some problems. Emma
Fimo Classic is the
hardest of the clays when raw and the most difficult
to condition, though
not nearly as bad as it used to be!
...sometimes the new stuff is even
too soft! . . . I have found too, that I buy my Fimo in large quanitites,
and let it age for a month or so, and then it is not so soft. Jenny Pat
...The packaging has lot numbers, but they have nothing to do with
how hard the clay will be, since storage conditions significantly affect
the hardness of the clay. Stores that move a lot of clay tend to have softer clay,
while other stores have ancient clay that feels like wood, or newer, also-very-hard,
clay that was overheated or over-exposed to lighting. The best test is to lightly
squeeze the package; with some experience you'll learn what to feel for. Ordering
Fimo by mail order will usually deliver a softer clay.
...see below in FimoSoft
for banging it on all sides (while still in the wrapper) with a rubber
mallet to possibly avoid the crumbs!
Fimo Classic is like warm leather when I take it out of the processor, and start to make sheets. It is beautiful stuff. Karen in FL
Fimo classic is wonderful for caning!
I
have found that mixing a little more than one part translucent to every 2 parts
red will prevent bleeding & make that nasty RED (Fimo Soft?)
easier to work with (when caning). Marilyn
To prevent the color bleeding Diane
talked about, I wonder if a thin sheet of black outlining the red would help?
LynnDel
(for more on bleeding, see above in Miscellaneous)
Fimo (esp. black) smells (more than other clays). . . If the piece is fully cured, it should get better as it airs. If it's not fully cured, I'm not so sure. If it doesn't air off in a couple of weeks, I think I'd pop it into the oven for fiftten minutes or so and see if it helps.)
I use Fimo (for sculpting),
and Fimo also has a clay called PuppenFimo that is specially for dolls.
The colour is very strong but you can mix it with white puppenfimo to get a nicer
skintone. Karen
.... Now I think they have two flesh colors in
the smaller bars at least also.
(see Sculpting
> Clays for all info on polymer clays when used specifically for
sculpting, making figures, etc.)
Then I had some old hard fimo which I overdid adding Vaseline to. I stuck it in the fridge for a while, then used it to make some critters for my kids. It was ridiculously sticky, but did hold its shape in the oven. The texture is really interesting - kind of pebbly like cement.
I have found that Fimo, while hard when cured according to directions, has a bit of a waxy crumbly texture on delicate or fine detail. Jeanne R.
There is now also a Fimo
liquid clay! Emma ....though it's not that easy to find
... called "Liquid
FIMO® Decorating Gel" ...may need to use the trademark
icon if searching! (or Deco Gel or Deko Gel
outside the U.S.)
(see websites above for recipes for the discontinued Fimo Classic colors) …
Fimo SOFT
(see
suppliers at top)
NOTICE
.. important formula changes!
2007...yet another new formulation
...even softer than before (so not as good for
details and handling)
...same lack of strength after
baking as before probably, maybe worse (compared to Premo, Kato, and the
older version of FimoClassic ...probably still stronger than the main Sculpeys
though)
....the new baking temp recommended by the manufacturer is 230°......however,
clayers and EF's chemist says have found that baking the clay and mixes
of old and new at the old temp of 265 results in
a stronger product (and colors also don't darken more)
........
but the burning temp
may be lower than the usual 385 for mixes or for new Fimos
...(from
Eberhard Faber): "It will be no problem if you want to mix "older" Fimo
(130° C, 265°F) with new Fimo (110°, 230°F). We advise to
harden the combined Fimo at a temperature of (230° F) 110°
C for
30 minutes (per 1/4" thickness?), and to use an oven thermometer for
checking the temperature in your oven." Eberhard Faber
2006...new
formulation... softer than before, and less strong
...how
to recognize the small bars compared to the
older FimoSoft
.....the new formula bars now have 8
bar markings on one side,
and 2
on the other side
.....the old, stronger FimoSoft
had only 2 segments both sides
NOTE:....these latest changes may not be reflected at the entire GlassAttic site ...too many instances of it to change
please
see the "Reformulations of Fimo Clays" 2007
sub-category (just above, under FimoClassic), for the history of the various changes,
info about baking temps, doll Fimo, etc
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FimoSoft
is now very soft out of the packet
...the downside is the stuff
is that it's somewhat brittle after
baking in thin or projecting areas (not as bad as
Sculpey though), but not as strong as the old FimoSoft
(....rounded balls will be strong though because they're inherently strong
shapes)
......this weakness
can be remedied by adding any other strong clay brand (FimoClassic, Premo, Kato,
Cernit), which will strengthen it in proportion to how much stronger clay is used
...the new version also has that
very matte finish like Sculpey III
Small bars of FimoSoft can run from 58-65 g (slightly more than the 2 oz of Premo or Sculpey III ... metric system)
Large
boxes (not easily available) ..seems
that Fimo is now making larger boxes of white and flesh-colored
FimoSoft ("bulk" ...for teachers, etc.)...this is probably to compete
with Sculpey's plain white in a box, and flesh-colored Scuper Sculpey also sold
in larger amounts (for teachers)
...but it is the new fomulation which
may be weaker than most other brands but stronger than Sculpey equivalents?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fimo/newbulfimsof.html
(8
lbs. bulk white = $58 ....... 24 lbs bulk white
= $170)
(8 lbs. bulk flesh--"Doll Pink"
= $58..... 24 lbs bulk white = $170 ........is their flesh
translucent or opaque?)
The older (two?)
versions of FimoSoft had some advantages/disadvantages that may or
may not be present in the current version:
......sticky, too soft, colors
not consistent, some colors bled easily into other clays/work surfaces/etc, some
could be crumbly, if leached became less flexible after baking but harder, didn't
seem to blend to itself very well, could crack in caning, may not hold conditioning
very long, could attract "gunk" if tumbled ...but could be sliced immediately,
reduced well, smoothed out well, had a very white White, some good colors...
Bake
at 230°
- 265°
....
(recommended temp on label is 230, but
clayers and EF's chemist says have found that baking the clay --and mixes
of old and new-- at the old temp of 265 results
in a stronger product (and colors also don't darken more)
........
but the burning temp
may be lower than the usual 385 for mixes or for new Fimos
(see more in Baking > Times & Temps)
special
colors... now called Effect...FimoSoft
the FORMULA for these
has
probably also changed
NOTES:
....All
the "special effect clays" now relabeled with word EFFECT
on pkg (all those which aren't simply plain regular "opaque"
colors)
... Fimo has
converted
most of the lines that used to be regular FimoClassic (the transparents,
stones, metallics, neon) into the FimoSoft line
instead
glitter
"Metallics"....NOTE:
these are not what the
other clay brands call "metallics"!...
at least now they seem to have glitter in the color name
.
. . they have actual glitter
in them (instead of mica)....distinctly
sparkly with a somewhat
glassy background color<